-|| WWE Unforgiven Discussion/Prediction Thread : September 18th 2005 ||-

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#151 The_Last_Ride
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[QUOTE="andremafia"]I hope Ric Flair wins, but I don't think I will see the master of Woows with a title again...seve15

yeah, i hope he wins too, but i think he might win, and then drop the title back to Carlito, within 2 weeks

I really hope he wins , but i cant see he winning the title somehow...

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#152 hbk91
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[QUOTE="seve15"]

[QUOTE="andremafia"]I hope Ric Flair wins, but I don't think I will see the master of Woows with a title again...The_Last_Ride

yeah, i hope he wins too, but i think he might win, and then drop the title back to Carlito, within 2 weeks

I really hope he wins , but i cant see he winning the title somehow...

I do see him having a short IC Title reign in the future but not right now...
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#153 Kotenks
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I personally despise Ric Flair due to his grabbing of people's privates. I just realized the only midcarders for the IC title are.

Shelton
Masters
Carlito champ*
Snitsky
Matt hardy *in fued so doesn't count*
Tomko*
Ric Flair

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#154 Link256
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I personally despise Ric Flair due to his grabbing of people's privates.

Kotenks

I hope you realize that Ric Flair is not the first wrestler too do that and certainly will not be the last.

I have seen plenty of other wrestlers grab someone's jewels.

For example: Val Vennis grabbed Mankind's jewels with rocko.

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#155 sephy37
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[QUOTE="Kotenks"]

I personally despise Ric Flair due to his grabbing of people's privates.

Link256

I hope you realize that Ric Flair is not the first wrestler too do that and certainly will not be the last.

I have seen plenty of other wrestlers grab someone's jewels.

For example: Val Vennis grabbed Mankind's jewels with rocko.

chyna grabbed her testicles more often than any man has...

and ric flair is a benchmark, he IS a wrestling god

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#156 hbk91
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[QUOTE="Link256"][QUOTE="Kotenks"]

I personally despise Ric Flair due to his grabbing of people's privates.

sephy37

I hope you realize that Ric Flair is not the first wrestler too do that and certainly will not be the last.

I have seen plenty of other wrestlers grab someone's jewels.

For example: Val Vennis grabbed Mankind's jewels with rocko.

chyna grabbed her testicles more often than any man has...

and ric flair is a benchmark, he IS a wrestling god

Quote of the year! :lol:
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#157 Kitanya
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I just need a CAW of Candice Michelle and Matt Hardy to sim the matches in DOR2.
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#158 dRehkJY
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Supposedly, on Heat, it was announced that Cade and Murdoch would take on the superheroes. I have C+M in my fantasy team as well as Cena + Angle, Ashley and Torrie, Flair + Carlito and others so I will score loads
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#159 Biggestgeekever
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[QUOTE="Link256"][QUOTE="Kotenks"]

I personally despise Ric Flair due to his grabbing of people's privates.

sephy37

I hope you realize that Ric Flair is not the first wrestler too do that and certainly will not be the last.

I have seen plenty of other wrestlers grab someone's jewels.

For example: Val Vennis grabbed Mankind's jewels with rocko.

chyna grabbed her testicles more often than any man has...

and ric flair is a benchmark, he IS a wrestling god

OMG, funniest post ever/:lol:

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#160 KevyR
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I think Goldust had grab people nuts before. He use to feel on people back in the days like Razor Ramon (Scott Hall), Rowdy Roody Piper, Marc Mero, and countless others.
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#161 dRehkJY
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Yes, school holiday until Wednesday next week so I can watch Unforgiven :P
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#162 KevyR
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Match added last night on Heat: World Tag Team Championship: Rosey and Hurricane vs. Murdoch and Cade
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#163 hbk91
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I am sure Cade and Murdoch will win the titles this time.

I'll update the GFX once they come in.

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#164 KevyR
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Let's hope they do a better job this time. I was watching Murdoch wrestling for the first time, and this guy looks to be tired real early on in the match. Plus, how old is this guy? 40? 50? He look to old to me pairing him with with Cade. I thought Mark Jindrak and Garrison Cade was a great team before WWE split them up. I had high hopes for these two to be a long time team but to no avail!
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#165 hbk91
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Yeah he looks a lot older than the new talent lately.
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#166 dRehkJY
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 There you go
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#167 hbk91
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Thank you. :)
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#168 hbk91
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Updated homepage:

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#169 sephy37
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so unless angle wins....this ppv is gonna suck. hbk vs. masters? SCREW THAT. shelton vs. "white is right" kerwin....how bout no, scott. and i don't want to see matt vs. edge again.

oh flair has a match too?....with carlito..................

i guess i'll order the tna ppv replay instead.

is anyone gonna order unforgiven? personally i'd wait and get survivor series, cuz that one should at least be better than unforgiven (and hopefully summerslam)

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#170 The_Dude14
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so unless angle wins....this ppv is gonna suck. hbk vs. masters? SCREW THAT. shelton vs. "white is right" kerwin....how bout no, scott. and i don't want to see matt vs. edge again.

oh flair has a match too?....with carlito..................

i guess i'll order the tna ppv replay instead.

is anyone gonna order unforgiven? personally i'd wait and get survivor series, cuz that one should at least be better than unforgiven (and hopefully summerslam)

sephy37

If it follows the pattern, we'll get to see rematches of all the matches over the next few weeks anyway. If I didn't order Unbreakable, there is no way I'm putting my money into this PPV.

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#171 hbk91
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If this was on Box Office, I would not buy it at all. Since it's on Sky Sports and is also free of charge, well no harm in watching it.
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#172 Link256
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Yeah, I will be ordering Unforgiven and Bound For Glory, Taboo Tuesday and No Mercy as well.

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#173 The_Dude14
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Yeah, I will be ordering Unforgiven and Bound For Glory, Taboo Tuesday and No Mercy as well.

Link256

Someone must have gotten a big fat paycheck. I hope WWE doesn't steal your money, as they have come accustomed to.

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#174 Link256
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[QUOTE="Link256"]

Yeah, I will be ordering Unforgiven and Bound For Glory, Taboo Tuesday and No Mercy as well.

The_Dude14

Someone must have gotten a big fat paycheck. I hope WWE doesn't steal your money, as they have come accustomed to.

:lol: Yeah, that would be correct.

Actually, I am mainly ordering No Mercy since it has been a year since I have order a SD only PPV and I want to see how a SD PPV main event will be without JBL. If I get burned by No Mercy 2005, it will probably be another year or longer before I get another SD only PPV.

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#175 JML897
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I just need a CAW of Candice Michelle and Matt Hardy to sim the matches in DOR2.Kitanya


For Candice, all you have to do is make a generic big-breasted brunette. :|
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#176 dRehkJY
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Correct me if I am wrong but is this Masters' first official PPV match? I know he had a ML challenge at Backlash but he was off PPV since then
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#177 KevyR
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That is correct! This is his very first PPV match. Anywayz, I thought Lance Cade and Trevor Murdoch did a good job in their match yesterday, and I think this team will do well, and walk out of Unforgiven as the New World Tag Team Champions.
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#178 BigE181
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What about Shelton Benjamin vs Kerwin White?
what about Big Show vs Gene Snitsky?
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#179 keiblerfan69
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i hate to be mean but if people order this over BFG you are a MORON!!1
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#180 BigE181
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What is BFG?
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#182 Link256
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i hate to be mean but if people order this over BFG you are a MORON!!1keiblerfan69

Wow...that is mean. :|

You know...you should really learn this saying, to each his or her own.

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#183 Link256
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What is BFG?BigE181

Answer: TNA's Bound For Glory.

TNA is hyping it to be their biggest pay-per-view yet and their are hyping it to be their version of wrestlemania (aka biggest PPV of the year).

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#184 BigE181
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TNA are not cool but WWE is.

TNA are more like ECW.

I dislike TNA cause someone can die.
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#185 keiblerfan69
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TNA are not cool but WWE is.

TNA are more like ECW.

I dislike TNA cause someone can die.
BigE181


what the hell? Have you actually watched TNA? Most people in this union agree wth me that TNA has been putting on better shows then WWE for monthes now.
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#186 keiblerfan69
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[QUOTE="keiblerfan69"]i hate to be mean but if people order this over BFG you are a MORON!!1Link256

Wow...that is mean. :|

You know...you should really learn this saying, to each his or her own.



no i mean if you order Unforgiven instead of BFG. i hope i didnt offend anyone. but if you order both thats cool. but you will notice the difference in quality.
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#187 The_Dude14
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What about Shelton Benjamin vs Kerwin White? I really hope Shelton wins and doesn't fall the craptacular gimmick WWE has laden on Chavo. With that in mind, Chavo'll win, probably
what about Big Show vs Gene Snitsky? Will suck. If this match eclipses the 10 minute mark, we'll have a worst MOTY candidate. It doesn't matter who wins this match, because everyone who watches it will lose.
BigE181

There ya go. Still no official annoucement about Chavo vs Shelton, so I can't assume it will make the card. If its added, it'll probably be a MOTN contender, which should speak volumes about this card.

EDIT: Well, Shelton vs Kerwin has been confirmed via WWE.com

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#188 Dark_Hylian8
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i think they should change it to

Kerwin White VS Shelton, Mark Henry, Teddy Long, Orlando Jordan and Micheal Jackson

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*Updated main page and first post*
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#190 -RKO
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Ashley & Trish vs. Torrie & Victoria

and

Shelton Benjamin vs. Kerwin White have been added to the card.

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#191 JML897
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TNA are not cool but WWE is.

TNA are more like ECW.

I dislike TNA cause someone can die.
BigE181


:| Elaborate. Tell me how WWE is better than TNA.
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#192 DaffyDuck13
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Why Does HBK have To waste his Time on Chris Masters You guys want an Prediction here it is

HBK wins in Less Than 1 Second!!!!!!!!

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#193 andremafia
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Why Does HBK have To waste his Time on Chris Masters You guys want an Prediction here it is

HBK wins in Less Than 1 Second!!!!!!!!

DaffyDuck13

I think they are giving Masters a major push:o

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#194 Kitanya
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TNA are not cool but WWE is.

TNA are more like ECW.

I dislike TNA cause someone can die.
BigE181
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Not really. ECW was hardcore, resulting in more danger. TNA is more technical and less weapons, even though they are both great, and better than WWE.

WWE is sucking right now because of a lack of competiton. Once TNA gets to Spike, WWE might get some competition.

On a side note, all I need for my Unforgiven SIm in DOR2 are CAWS of Candice and Hardy. Anyone have any? PM them to me if you do.
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#195 Kotenks
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Sep 1 2005, 01:34 AMMatt Hardy
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Pics below:

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Custom Beard

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APPEARANCE
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Figure
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Whole Body: W:2 H:-33 D:3

Face
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V:-100 D:20 W:-35 L:-95 D:-11

Forehead
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H:-22 V:9 D:38 Y:16 R:75 W:-100 H:65

Eye
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H:-50 V:-100 D:0 P:0 Y:-16 R:53 W:58 H:8

Cheekbone
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V:100 D:23 W:15

Nose
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V:-100 D:-50 P:36 W:-13 L:22 D:0

Nose Top
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V:-20 D:-34 P:62 W:31 L:56 D:0

Mouth
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V:-24 D:35 P:68 W:42 L:-100 D:33

Lip Angel
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H:-100 V:-17 D:0

Cheek
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W:16

Outline
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V:-100 D:100 W:-23

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Head
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W:-9 L:-1 D:10

Neck
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W:4 L:-77 D:15

Shoulder
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Waist
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Head Base: Form (Face Line 01) , Wrinkles (Wrinkle 05)
Hairstyle: Form (Middle 05) , Color H:0 S:0 B:20
Eyebrow: Form (Normal Down) , Color H:0 S:0 B:0
Eye: Eyeshape (Brow Wide) , Eyelashes (Eyewrinkle 04) , Iris (Normal Brown 1)
Nose: Sharp
Mouth: Think lips 02
Mustache: Form (Sideburns 01) , Color H:0 S:0 B:20
Decoration: Pattern lower: Paint Tool: Custom Beard: Head:
(Repeat:None H:0 V:15 R:0 W:100 H:100)
Mask:None

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Body Base: Form (normal) , Tattoo (None) , Color (H:331 S:29 B:56)
Innerwear: Form (None)
Outerwear: Form (None)
Bottom Wear: Form (Hip Hop 02) , Pattern Lower (Camouflage) , Pattern Upper (Belt 03) , Color (Form :H:250 S:45 B:31 , Pattern Lower: H:230 S:65 B:20 , Pattern Upper: Color 1 H:0 S:0 B:0 , Color 2 H:0 S:0 B:50)
Socks: None
Footwear: Form (Boots) Color1: H:0 S:0 B:20 , Color2 Same

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Elbow: Both , Form (Supporter 02) Color:H:0 S:0 B:14
Wrist: Both , Form (Bandage Long) Color: H:348 S:0 B:36
Hand: Both , Form (Bandage 02) Color: H:348 S:0 B:36
Knee: None SmacktalksSep 2 2005, 12:24 AMIt's not a bad caw seeing as the games only just been released, here's Matt Hardy's moveset.

This is for DoR1, however the move names seem to be the same except for the "Mattitude Ver.1.0" taunt which is now called "Gunz".

Matt Hardy Moveset:

Fighting Stance: Male 01
Ring in style: Normal
Ring out Style: Normal
Apron to Ring: Normal
Turnbuckle Climbing: Normal
Rising Style: Normal
Reversal Style: Cruiser
Light Striking (N): Punch-R
Light Striking (Any Direction): Toe kick 01
Combo 2nd: Punch-R
Combo Finish (N): Spinning knuckle
Combo Finish (Any Direction): Dropkick
Heavy Striking (N): Full Swing Punch
Heavy Striking (Any Direction): Dropkick
Light Grapple (N): Scoop Slam 01
Light Grapple (up): Snap Suplex
Light Grapple (down): Jaw breaker 01
Light Grapple (left): Arm Drag
Light Grapple (right): Bulldog
Heavy Grapple (N): DDT
Heavy Grapple (up): Cross Bomb Pin
Heavy Grapple (down): Russian Leg Sweep
Heavy Grapple (left): Side Effect
Heavy Grapple (right): Side Suplex
Grappled Striking (N): Punch-R
Grappled Striking (up): Eye Rake
Grappled Striking (down): Headlock Smash
Grappled Striking (left): Elbow Smash-L
Grappled Striking (right): Elbow Smash-R
Weapon Attack (Chair): DDT to weapon
Weapon Attack (Stick): Couple of strikes
Light Grapple (N): Sleeper hold
Light Grapple (up): Back Drop
Light Grapple (down): School Boy
Light Grapple (left): Falling Neck Breaker
Light Grapple (right): Take Down
Heavy Grapple (N): Abdominal Stretch
Heavy Grapple (up): Flashback
Heavy Grapple (down): Reverse DDT
Heavy Grapple (left): Russian Leg Sweep
Heavy Grapple (right): Side Slam
Grappled Striking (N): Punch-L
Grappled Striking (up): Elbow Strike
Grappled Striking (down): Back Rake
Grappled Striking (left): Elbow Smash-L
Grappled Striking (right): Elbow Smash-R
Running Strike (N): Back Elbow Strike
Running Strike (Any Direction): Dropkick
Running Front Grapple: Swinging DDT
Running Rear Grapple: School boy
Down Strike (Face Up): Stomp 01
Down Strike (Face Down): Stomp 01
Running Down Strike (Face Up): Elbow Drop
Running Down Strike (Face Down): Elbow Drop
Down Grapple (Face Up): Reverse Chin Lock
Down Grapple (Face Down): Headlock
Down Grapple (Face Up): Knee Smash
Down Grapple (Face Down): Arm Wrench with toe Kick
Down Grapple (Face Up): Kick to Hamstring
Down Grapple (Face Down): Knee breaker
From Turnbuckle (Stand) (N): Double Axe Handle
From Turnbuckle (Stand) (Any direction): Double Axe Handle
From Turnbuckle (Down) (N): Diving Elbow Drop 01
From Turnbuckle (Down) (Any direction): Moonsault Splash 01
Dive to Outside (N): baseball slide
Dive to Outside (any direction): baseball slide
Springboard attack: none
Attack to Outside: Vaulting Body Press
From Apron to outside: Double Axe Handle
From Top Rope (Stand): None
From Top Rope (Down): None
Irish Whip Strike (N): Full Swing Punch
Irish Whip Strike (Any Direction): Spinning knuckle
Pull Back Strike (N): Shoulder thrusts
Pull Back Strike (Any Direction): Clothesline
Light Irish Whip Grapple (N): Monkey Toss
Light Irish Whip Grapple (Any Direction): Back Toss
Heavy Irish Whip Grapple (N): Flapjack 01
Heavy Irish Whip Grapple (Any Direction): Side Effect
Turnbuckle Dodge 01
Turnbuckle Strike: Full Swing Punch
Turnbuckle Lower Strike: Stomp 01
Running Turnbuckle Strike: Clothesline-R
Running Turnbuckle Lower Strike: Dropkick
Light Turnbuckle Grapple (N): 10 Punches
Light Turnbuckle Grapple (Any Direction): Shoulder Thrusts
Heavy Turnbuckle Grapple (N): Superplex
Heavy Turnbuckle Grapple (Any Direction): Super Hurracanrana
Turnbuckle Lower Grapple: Stomping and knee trample
On Turnbuckle (Front): Throw
Light Turnbuckle Grapple (N): Face Slam to Pole
Light Turnbuckle Grapple (Any Direction): School boy
Heavy Turnbuckle Grapple (N): Super Back Drop
Heavy Turnbuckle Grapple (Any Direction): Super Back Drop
On Turnbuckle (Rear): Drop to outside
Front: Double Suplex
Rear: Double team knee breaker
Sandwich: Leg drop Collaboration
Irish Whip: Double Arm Drag
Front Turnbuckle: Double Throw
Rear Turnbuckle: Neck Breaker Bomb
Taunt (up): Gunz
Taunt (down): Ready for the Baldo Bomb
Taunt (left): Gunz
Taunt (right): Gunz
Taunt (special): Me, Baby! Me!
Taunt (on turnbuckle): Taunt 01
Taunt (at apron): Clapping Hands 01
Taunt (after win): Matt
Grapple to Apron: Suplex
Grapple from Apron: Guillotine
Rope Down Grapple: Rope Guillotine
Reversal Attack (N): Elbow Stomp
Reversal Attack (Any Direction): Elbow Stomp
Testing Power: Toe Kick
Grapple at Edge: Throw
Attack From Edge (S): Double Axe Handle
Attack From Edge (L): Diving Elbow Drop 01
Front Grapple: Twist of Fate
Rear Grapple: Twist of Fate
Attack From Turnbuckle: Mattitude Guillotine Leg Drop
Momentum Shift: Low Blow 03

nnnSep 2 2005, 06:30 AMFunny story, I make a guy in order to go through story mode, and I get done with everything and all, and go through a couple of matches, but something was bugging me. Then, in the middle of a match, I noticed it. The guy I made looked almost exactly like Matt. He didn't have a beard, but other than that I think it was pretty damn good. Sure, the attire would need to be changed (all I had the guy in was a pair of jeans, so I guess that could be used, if that's what you wanted...), but this guy looked pretty good. Then I changed the hair to short and forgot all about the Hardy resemblence. In short, that hair is pretty much perfect for a Matt Hardy CAW.
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#196 dRehkJY
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What game was it for?
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#197 KevyR
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Chris Masters does not deserve a push. The only guy that deserve a push is Shelton Benjamin! He is hard working, and deserve to be in a WWE Title shot reign very soon.
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#198 Y2Gee
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Who are you guys going for, Trish and Ahsley or Victoria and Toriie?
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#199 Kitanya
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Who are you guys going for, Trish and Ahsley or Victoria and Toriie?Y2Gee

I'm personally going fot T&A (lol Trish and Ashley, I'm thinking it's the new T&A) over T&V because I dislike Torrie so much.
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#200 hbk91
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Who are you guys going for, Trish and Ahsley or Victoria and Toriie?Y2Gee
Trish and Ashley. Ashleys got to get a win someday and plus it's Trish long awaited return to a PPV in a long time.